Are you THE Melissa, my friend who answers lots of queries for us?? First I need to say Minton marks are a specialist area simply because Minton were so large and important company.If yes, thanks for your constant help - much appreciated! My general references do not go into that much detail.So confirming the maker is probably outside the remit of these help forums.
A circle inside a triangle for 1876, a cross inside a rectangle for 1884, a dot inside a square for 1869, Staffordshire knot for 1888 ..... This info is taken from what Goddens says about Minton marks: From 1842 they went to an impressed 'cypher system' very specific and easy to date. The following page is a 'must see' if you are researching fine china - for value and identification:-Researching the identity and value of antique and vintage fine china. He makes a couple of references to a planned sequel for Minton 1850+, as well, but I can't find any such book. Collecting relative is in the US, her parents emigrated from Birmingham. We just had a submission from Joanne Bray over in Australia about an old nice quality looking Japanese Kutani style (e.g.
There may be exceptions I suppose, but generally, this is what you see: There is normally a set of three marks: YEAR -- a different 'cyper' or graphic mark for every year for 100 years. MONTH -- This is normally a letter of the alphabet - J for January, F for February etc etc (I can't see this on yours)POTTERS MARK -- I don't have any info on the potters mark, but I guess they are the squiggles. Please post comments below which you think might be helpful…… I have a great time tracking down these little mysteries, always glad to help! I've picked up my taste for English china from her. the orange palette) plate without markings except for a small red blob mark on the bottom.
I checked out Godden from the library, but can't pin this down. Godden says in 1850, Minton started a new range of pattern numbers, starting A1, A2, etc., and then in 1860 new subdivisions and letter prefixes were introduced: 'B' Decorations without gilt enrichment, c. Is your Worcester collecting family member in the US or UK? Here's the photos:- I was reading up about Minton on the Cumming Collection (at the Gardiner Museum) website and contrary to what I thought about Minton being always clearly marked, they were saying that early Minton often is either totally unmarked or has just pattern numbers.
Dating Minton mark - B4 1/2 Query:- I have a set of 4 plates that I recently bought online.
The seller did not know the maker or date, but I have identified them as Minton, circa 1845, through are a variation of the cuckoo pattern, with a handpainted turquoise rim.
The pattern appears to be stamped, with the colors being hand-enameled.The backs are marked with an impressed B4 1/2 (the 1/2 is impressed as a proper 1 over 2 fraction), and there is a hand painted '14' in a reddish-brown color on all plates.One plate has an additional hand painted mark of two small vertical dashes with a longer vertical line to the right; this mark can also be seen as two horizontal dashes with a longer horizontal line beneath(and looks somewhat like an emoticon smiley face).I am attaching a scan of one of my plates, the back mark, and a photo from Except for the inner rim being a different color and having a scalloped edge, the pattern is the same as my plates (notice that the bird is on the outside of the cup).They also have a listing for Minton 3084: shows the same bird/bush pattern as my plate but their photo is so bad I don't want to send it along! Hopefully the scans are good enough, if not I will try to get photos instead.Thanks Melissa===================================catch up as fast as I can!